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Dear deviantArt Staff,

I've been virgino0owhore for nine years. While I understand I can just create a new account if I want a new name, I feel that this is a waste. I would have to move every piece of work over to this new account, re-favorite over 3,000 favorites and rewatch my current watch list. It's simply not worth it all because of 14 letters. 

Not to mention, I lead a club against name wasting, making getting a new account hypocritical. It seems more practical to allow members to pay to change their name. This prevents the wasting of names that can't be removed because they have history on them. It also gives deviantArt a new revenue source. 

Naturally you couldn't choose a taken name but, the act of paying for a name change is common in internet society and amongst gaming communities as well. The price varies but is usually around 15 U.S. dollars, and whatever that may translate into. 

How would a user change his/her name?
:bulletgreen: They could access the name change feature through their user settings, or even the deviantArt store features, much the same way one purchased points. Once accessed, they would have to choose a new name through a text box, and using the same technology the site has set up for choosing a new account, the name would be verified as available or unavailable. Once a new name has been determined, they would be prompted with a payment method choice. 

What if they wanted to revert back to the old name?
:bulletgreen: They would have a 30 day grace period with the first name change. The old name would be locked and if they decided they wanted to revert back to their old name in this time they could easily do so by pressing a button. There would be no refund, and this is something they should be notified of prior to completing the transaction. 
:bulletgreen: Any further usage of the name change function would not grant the 30 day revert grace period. It would be a permanent change, unless they paid for the name to be reverted. 

How many name changes could a deviant have?
:bulletgreen: Each member would be given a maximum of five name changes, available upon accessing the premium membership feature only. 

Would the name change on all posts/comments/etc?
:bulletgreen: Yes. Much like the avatar changes on all posts when updated, so would the name. Any post ever from you would show under your new name.

What happens to the old name?
:bulletgreen: The old name would be locked for 30 days and unavailable for use. This is needed for the grace period to be allowed for first time name changers. During this lock out period, any attempt to access the old name would revert in a redirect to the new name. 
IE: virgino0owhore.deviantart.com would redirect to vo0ow.deviantart.com

How would they tell the difference if someone took the old name?
:bulletgreen: Firstly, your page is still your page and their page is still theirs. Confusion may happen, it's a risk with these sorts of things, but when they click on your name or avatar they will be able to see you are not the same person.
:bulletgreen: Secondly, anyone on your watch list would be sent a notification of your name change. It would read along the lines of:
virgino0owhore has deviantly changed their name to vo0ow!
:bulletgreen: During the thirty day grace period, your name would show a question mark as it's symbol. Example: ?vo0ow

What if someone took the old name of a user, and uploaded their artwork to pose as them?
:bulletgreen: The users deviations would be uploaded in a shorter time frame than the actual deviation. This is a dead give away of it being a false and thieving account. This should be reported to deviantArt right away. The user will be punished appropriately. 

What if the user didn't want their old name available for reuse?
:bulletgreen: When accessing the name changing feature, a bullet option would be on the form used to make the change asking if you wish for the name to be retired or not. The default of this function would be set to no, but should you pick yes it will go into an archive list of names and the page itself would redirect to your new name. If you choose to archive the old name it may end up becoming unavailable to even you, so be sure you are certain of this option upon choosing it.

Paid Name Changes are Voluntary
:bulletgreen: When a name change is bought, they would be prompted with an "Are you sure?" box that had a cancel, or yes button to press. It would inform them in a more legal manner, that it is their choice to change their name and the risks they are taking. IE: Possibly losing the name if someone else chooses it, having to pay to get the old one back if it is still available, people being confused with the name change. 

No Refunds
:bulletgreen: There should be a no refund policy associated with it, something they would have to accept before completing the transaction. Only if there were proven technical difficulties would it even be considered. Meaning, the site charged them but the conversion was not made in the time frame alloted for the transition, the name they were given was not what they chose and they can prove it, etc. Typos are not a reason for a refund. 

Please take this suggestion into consideration.

Rachel A. Osborn
No longer wishing to be virgino0owhore
Thank you so much for all of the support and favorites! Your comments are being considered and will be applied to the document. I'm in the process of getting the opinions of coders so that the proposal can be geared towards the reality of the situation.

I'm honored that this got a Daily Deviation, and I feel it's a small victory for the community being heard.

Only deviantART.com and CO have the right to use any parts of this document for redistribution. That being policy. No credit is needed if dA does decide to use it. The ability to change the username is more than welcome in itself.

Addressing Comments I Wont Use:
:bulletgreen: $15 is a lot! I wouldn't pay $15, maybe 10, or 5 even.
Understandable, completely. Some don't think $15 is worth it, and believe me I understand. The price, however, does justify the work that will be put into the actual change itself. From a coding standpoint, there is more than just flipping a switch. The time spent to change the name as is (with the current database) would take days. Yes. You read me right, days. For this to be worth their time they would need to restructure the database to make it a more efficient process. For this to be accomplished they need to justify the cost versus the need. For now, that cost is $15 per person who is interested in this at all. If we're going to go by the number of favorites, thats 6285$ US that they could earn off the bat. From one coder's point of view, that number right now isn't enough for the initial change + maintenance costs.

:bulletgreen::bulletgreen: I guess we should just give up then!
Hardly! Change doesn't happen with out hard work and motivation. If you believe in this change and stand by it, support it like anything else. Treat it as a bill you're trying to get passed and share it with those you feel would benefit. If we can get the numbers up, then we might stand a chance at seeing this passed. It takes the help of everyone.

Current Support in $'s
540 favs * $15 US = $8,100 US


I will update more as I address the situations, this is considered a Live Document until the proposal is accepted.
Idea Contributors
~pawelabrams ~queen382 `DoItForTheLulz *WolfPearl `priteeboy *MonaParvin ~elmenora ~SailorKnightWing *MutilatedMasquerades ~aspirin111 *ThraxzGirl `SanguineEpitaph =bag-chan


Other Name Related Deviations:
New Account, Same dA - A Migration Suggestion New account, Same dA - A Migration Suggestion


I recently created a new account semi-reluctantly knowing that dA does not currently support account migration; Not even the ability to change your User Name. Now the reason for my new account is very well defined. - I needed to change my User Name (for "professional" purposes). This is a VERY COMMON reason for creating a new account. That aside, let's get into my suggestion(s).

Since creating my new account I have hardly used it because I know that I am going to have to re-:+fav: the better pieces of art on dA (1000s of deviations); Not to mention that I'm gonna have to re-organize all my coll
About changing names So you want to change your name?
... it's all virtual, my friend!


What if...?
When the facility of changing one's name doesn't exist, only workarounds can be used. These include, for instance, create another account. Unfortunately the latter has a lot of downsides, among which losing all the faves and page views. Also moving one's deviation from one account to another is proved to be a pain in the neck to say the least. There are others of course.


But how?
One possible implementation exists, which is really simple for the staff to feature. Most of all it doesn't have the downsides of renaming accounts. First off, technical: renam



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Daily Deviation

Given 2011-12-20
Paid Name Changes by =virgino0owhore
It's as suggester says; this is a common suggestion, but it's a well worded and thought out appeal--at the very least it sets a standard for how suggestions should be made. Also suggested by =TheMasterNeko.

deviantART Related / deviantART Suggestions / Written Suggestions ( Suggested by neurotype and Featured by namenotrequired )
:iconkokobutter:
Kokobutter Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
S. U. P. P. O. R. T.

MANG YOU GOT MAH SUPPORT CUZ GUUUUUURRRRLLLLL virgino0owhore MUST BE SUH AN EMBARRASSING NAME.
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Kokobutter Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
SUCH NOT SUH

SORRY

I MUST CORRECT MAHSELF. ALWAYS.
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:iconlaurenlilly757:
laurenlilly757 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Wow..
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:iconkokobutter:
Kokobutter Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I'm an insane perfectionist with ADD.

And I'm proud of it, too.
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:iconlaurenlilly757:
laurenlilly757 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2013  Student General Artist
No... just, you correct yourself and then misspell another word while you're at it... seems a bit repetitive...
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:iconkokobutter:
Kokobutter Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know.

I like to confuse people.

THAT'S the ADD kicking in.
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:iconlaurenlilly757:
laurenlilly757 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013  Student General Artist
...I think you're a bit confused.
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:iconkokobutter:
Kokobutter Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm always confused. :3
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Interface Designer
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PaperMishea Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Student General Artist
What if I made a second account so no one would take that name but now Iwant this username to be switched to that one?
Example: Current user name is MisheaWootish
I want it to be PaperMishea. It is in use, by me. lol THere is nothing important currently under the name PaperMishea. I just want to switch this account to that name so I don't have to move it all (like stated above)
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Woona-tic Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2012  Hobbyist Interface Designer
This needs to happen...

I have wanted to modify my DA name for a while now due to changing interests, but I don't need a monthly premium subscription as I only follow artists, not make/display artwork.... yet.

How much would I pay?, I couldn't put a price on it yet, i'll get back to you on that...
But as long as it's not too much more than a single month membership would be fine, as if it was much more, I would just get one month, change my name then cancel it.
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:iconriamisu:
riamisu Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
support support!
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Koiiex Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
virgino0owhore? wtf? why would you pick that name in the first place?
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:iconkokobutter:
Kokobutter Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I was about to post that!

Especially since she (he?) leads a group against name wasting.

This is a major WTF moment.

But she (he?)has my support.

virgino0owhore must be a really embarrassing name. She (he?) must get harrassed about it a lot.
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lucile Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
Any news about it ?
I agree about the fact it's a real shit to create a new account just for that, I'm here for 7 years and want a new name, I don't see me re uploading all my stuff and loosing all my comments.
It's really a problem DA does'nt allow namge changes. Really I could pay 15$ for that.
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DeadChesh Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
This is a bloody brilliant idea!!!! I'm sooo glad you came up with this! Because I really like my account and changing is such a pain! I'm so excited that they might be considering this!!!!!
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Astirisk Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
Just a thought, but why would people want to change their account name for 15$ if they can just create a new account for free? It just takes a little bit more time. Don't get me wrong, but there just seems to be a flaw with this.

Although I also hate to see dead accounts left and right. It's just a waste of names. : (
Any thoughts of creating a bill for this?
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:iconkampfly:
kampfly Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
well put. i don't mind my name, because it has neither sense nor meaning to most people, but i can understand the perspective of people in your situation. i was a little curious/disturbed/worried the first time i saw your name pop up around the site :XD: now you seem so involved, it's a shame to have someone who'd judge you just because of a name you created years ago. the addition of price and limitations is a good idea. i always thought that a username served as some sort of anchor or constant for everything you do around the site, but i guess not? then again, i'm no computer whizz. good luck to you :)
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WraithWorshipper Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I support this and would use it.
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sugarislife28 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think that this is a good idea, but what about the people that don't have money to pay the $15? I mean I understand it takes a lot of money to pay for this kind of action but what of the people that can't afford it because they have to use the money else where? Could there be an option like points where it can be donated or something?
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Ja-Kitsu-Ryou Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would certainly be willing to pay $15 to change my name. :) I know it will take a lot of work to get the coding right, and the price will deter abusers. So long as they don't make it a feature only for premium members or something. I can give $15 for a better chance at selling my work, but I have too many other expenses to be able to pay more for a subscription.

It seems like they may be seriously considering making a change of username available. Hopefully we'll be able to change our names soon! I like my name still, but it is easily forgotten and makes for poor marketing.
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Angel-Dust-Ryuuki Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012  Student General Artist
I agree with most of this. Though I think that the old name should be permanently retired to all but the original owner of the name. That way it would stop thieving and posing period. Giving less work and less worry for the people who run and maintain deviantart.
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HersheyStarLover Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
$15 just for the name change? :T
I guess it's worth it, but i'd rather use that $15 for my contest :T

Though I really like this suggestion~ I've met several people change their whole ACCOUNT, and everything isn't even the same xDD
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:iconxehara:
Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012   General Artist
The 15 was based on what's charged in multiple other places and the coding it'd take to set it all up.
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:iconhersheystarlover:
HersheyStarLover Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh I see...
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moonman169 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
iv got a ? 4 u how does one get paid for ones work on DA
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:iconxehara:
Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012   General Artist
Likely through prints, though that isn't what this deviation is about. You'd have better luck looking over the website's FAQ.
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moonman169 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
k ty 4 the info
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:iconostria:
Ostria Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
I would like to have this in the future. Tired of this nick, had this name for several years now D:, hell i'd pay maybe $20 to change the darn name even D:
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:iconxehara:
Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012   General Artist
Thank you for your support and the fav!
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:iconostria:
Ostria Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Np, thanks for going to my page so i can see it (I normally go to people's pages who visits mine >.>)
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:iconxehara:
Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012   General Artist
You're welcome!
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:iconiedasb:
iedasb Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
my username is fine, but I think this is a good idea :)
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Dingo-Sniper Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am in total support of this idea, my username is crap and considering I based it from my youtube that doesn't help either.
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NoreyDragon Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
As I understand that people really want to change their names, I think the opportunity shouldn't be available. I fully understand and acknowledge your wish but still.... Our name is the only constant thing on dA, it is our only identity. Surely if I changed my name to Norey or NoreyTheDragon, I'd still be the same person. But changing it to The-Butterfly or PONIES4EVER for example would make my very same page and account to completely another person. I think this shouldn't be applied.
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QueenoftheBlackRoses Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Love it.

However, I know you've addressed why people might have to pay, but I would still just switch manually if I know it's never going to be free or available for free users. My own opinion is that people should have to pay for multiple name changes or if someone wishes to revert to their original username (as long as no one has taken it up, of course). Alternatively, dA could open up free switches once every few months (a bit like the journal skins, but permanent), if they receive the money to finance such an offer.

Besides that, I currently haven't the time or the talent to open up commissions and I'm too insecure to grovel for points; I never even advertised the donation box on my page. This is probably the first time anyone'll be aware of its existence. So, really... unless I hit a stroke of luck with a generous person, dA won't be receiving points from me any time soon, even if I hate my username (which I do).
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:iconxehara:
Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012   General Artist
#dAWishingWell lets people wish for points. So that's a good resource.
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:iconqueenoftheblackroses:
QueenoftheBlackRoses Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks; I'll definitely keep that in mind. ^^ I just tend to overthink things, especially since I don't contribute much of worth to the community...
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PersephoneWatching Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Quite simply, don't change the username... www.h2g2.com has a system where the username is never displayed, what you see is a screen name which can be changed at any time. I'm not sure what you could do for people's profile pages (h2g2 files people's profiles under their user number, not name), but I'm sure the code isn't too difficult to change that name that appears above the comment or below artwork to one from a different line of script. h2g2 has lasted a long time without a major redesign (that stuck I should probably add) so it's the same old code as a long time ago, no doubt it's simpler now than then.
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RebeccaIsLeft Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would get on my knees and beg for this feature if it would help get it working on dA. I picked my username when I was 10. At 17 I feel I could do MUCH better and not use such a stereotypical name, but I really don't want to go through the effort of making a new account.
:thumbsup: Supporting this all the way!
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Abatoir Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
There's a good point, you shouldn't have been on dA when you were 10. The name is your punishment for breaking the rules.
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RebeccaIsLeft Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I joined dA when I was 13, but I had been using this username on other websites beforehand, so I stuck with it. I'm not a rule breaker. Don't assume things. :)
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Abatoir Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012
You're the one who said you were on da at 10 o_o
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RebeccaIsLeft Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Read my comment again. I said I picked the name when I was 10 - I actually used this username on a number of kiddy websites when I was 10, then at 13 I joined dA and kept the same username.
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Darketh90 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Student General Artist
This is a great idea :thumbsup:
though I'd probably never use it xD you never know! It'd be a nice option to have :)
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batlesbo Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
YES.
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silentclearlite Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
completely agree :thumbsup:
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Ahn-Oh Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
how did you're user name end up like that?
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Xehara Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012   General Artist
I was 17, and it had an emo meaning behind it >.>
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Ahn-Oh Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh, i see
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